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SOA World Conference & Expo SYS-CON.TV Power Panel Live From Times Square

"App Server Shoot-Out" - IBM, Oracle, BEA, JBoss, Microsoft, and Sun Come Out Gunning

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Executives from IBM, BEA, JBoss, Microsoft, Oracle, and Sun debated diverse aspects of their application server offerings. A discussion of price points, from the JBoss open-source model which emphasizes service revenues, to the more traditional business models from most of the other vendors was followed by a discussion of the technical merits of each platform and how each company is uniquely striving to serve what it perceives as its customers' needs.

The six industry experts involved in the Shoot-Out this year were Mark Heid (IBM), Gary McBride (BEA),  Shaun Connolly (JBoss), Dino Chiesa (Microsoft), Mike Lehmann (Oracle), and Rich Sharples (Sun).

The panel predictably discussed open source, but in ways that might have been unexpected.  One of the more interesting discussion points, posed by Yakov Fain, for example, involved platform modifications (with J2SE, for example) and risk mitigation.

Chiesa said Microsoft's customers always have concerns that companies might disappear, in the manner of "Wang or SGI," so derive confidence in Redmond's approach to provide the features they demand while mitigating their risk by assuring customers that the company is here to stay.  "I agree, risk mitigation is what this is really all about," echoed Mike Lehmann.  "Oracle layers in the features that our customers find to be the most useful  and help them drive and maintain competitive advantage."

"(And there is) risk around vendor lock-in," noted IBM's Heid. "But IBM has been a leader...for a very long time." He also noted that the company and its customers "can't be hogtied by the standards-setting process in cases where  our customers want fo move faster."

BEA's McBride picked up on Heid's point, saying, "Where there no standards available, BEA will innovate, and where there are (valuable) standards, BEA will adopt. We contribute greatly to the open standards community."


10th International "SOA World Conference & Expo" panel discussion taped live at SYS-CON.TV's Times Square studios and "Enterprise Open Source Power Panel" are now both streaming.

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JBoss vs BEA 11/20/05 05:42:36 AM EST

The guy from BEA seemed to be very clear in his thinking. The one from JBoss though won the debate hands down imho.

SOA Web Services Journal News Desk 11/18/05 04:02:24 PM EST

The Second SYS-CON AppServer Shoot-Out was webcast live from a studio in New York, hosted by SYS-CON Publishing Director Jeremy Geelan and renowned JDJ contributor Yakov Fain, with panels members coming from industry leaders IBM, Oracle, BEA, JBoss, Microsoft, and Sun Microsystems.