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Wanted: Access to the Native Win32/.NET APIs from Java

"I was promised 'Java everywhere' and I'm still waiting. Hopefully, the Sun-Microsoft settlement will make this possible."

"The Sun-Microsoft settlement seems to mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people," Cedric Beust  - a senior software developer in the WebLogic Server team - wrote this week in his personal blog.

For his own part, he realizes - he wrote - that his needs are very simple: 

"I want to be able to write Java code for the .NET platform."

"I don't mean writing Java on a Windows platform (I do that every day and it's working very well)," he continued, "but being able to access the native Win32/.NET APIs from Java." 

"Right now, if I want to write an add-in for Outlook, I need to switch to C#.  Not a huge deal in itself, and it's actually a fairly pleasant experience, but I was promised "Java everywhere" and I'm still waiting. Hopefully, the Sun-Microsoft settlement will make this possible."

Beust mused that it is interesting to see how things change. While a few years ago, writing native code for Windows meant "switching back to C++ (bad) and Visual Studio (good),"  it now means "switching to C# (good) and Visual Studio (bad)."

"Don't get me wrong," Beust concludes, "Visual Studio remains an outstanding IDE and if anything, it is more powerful now than it was five years ago.  It's just that today, modern Java IDEs blow it out of the water..."

He ends with a final wish:

"Hopefully, in a couple of years from now, deciding to write native code for Windows (or for any platform for that matter) will mean switching to both languages and tools that are equally pleasant to use as those I am using today."

 

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Frustrated w. Creative Jukebox SDK 04/23/04 09:09:01 AM EDT

He''s asking the WRONG question, what we need (SUN are you listening) is a full Java <-> COM bridge, which has an API which supports all COM datatypes and a builder API with a tool which can build the Java proxies from COM dll''s, exe''s, tld''s, C++ code etc. I''ve tried IBM''s Interface tool, but it doesn''t go far enough and the builder can''t be tweaked, because it is a win32 executable, not Java code, why?

malcolm davis 04/22/04 11:35:53 PM EDT

I thought this was about Native Win32/.NET APIs from Java, not what is a better IDE. If anybody is saying that Visual Studio is the best, they need to get a reality check, and look all the features in a development environment. For instances, where is Visual Studio refactoring capability?

However, IDE issues to the side. Someone wants the Java language in .NET APIs? Go do .NET and get over the syntax difference between C# and Java languages. Not that big a deal. Or do Python.

If they want to write Plugins for Outlook, learn Outlook VB and save the headache. If you?re an Outlook person, I understand the desire to control Outlook. There are a hell of a lot of plugins and scripts for Outlook.

What really needs to be done? A Java version of Outlook. :-)

Partha Mukhopadhyay 04/20/04 04:07:09 PM EDT

IDE-wise, the battle is over. Check out BEA Workshop 8.1. It is better that Visual Studio in many aspects (yes, I love and work with Visual Studio as well), and since the 8.1 platform supports lots of platform features (like WLI) out of the box, you''d be surprised to see how in a minute one can integrate two webservices and add a common XML schema and generate all the marshalling code.

Mumei 04/20/04 02:25:59 PM EDT

"I want to be able to write Java code for the .NET platform." If you want to write Java _language_ that _targets_ (and can utilize) the .NET platform, you can use J#.

"It''s just that today, modern Java IDEs blow it out of the water..." Is this a joke? Thanks for the laugh of the day. My biggest complaint about Java is the lack of a decent IDE for serious development. NetBeans is decent, but does not even remotely approach VS.NET in usability or productivity.

ROFL 04/20/04 10:45:35 AM EDT

"It''s just that today, modern Java IDEs blow it out of the water..."
And you''re comparing this to what? Workshop? HA! Are you attempting to compare a C# IDE to a Java IDE? Regardless of it being apples and oranges, Visual Studio is by far the most mature IDE there is, with JBuilder being a close second. Everything else is at least a year away from being as robust as VS & JBuilder. Worshop is eons away...

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