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Yahoo! vs Google Race Heats Up As Yahoo! Enters "Social Software" Space

Upcoming Social Network Formerly Code-Named "Mingle" Announced - Blogging, PhotoSharing, and More

Yahoo's "Mingle" project has been formally announced, and re-named "Yahoo 360" - a social network or "social software" platform integrating Yahoo's existing products such as instant messenger, photos, local search, music, and groups with new offerings such as blogs, mobile blogs and sharing tools for recommending movies, restaurants and other items.

It can suck in buddy lists from Yahoo Messenger, and is set to grow fast. The service will enter a restricted beta period on March 29, Yahoo! says.

Marcel van Leeuwen, CEO of YEALD, believes Yahoo 360 will succeed where many others will fail. It could become "both huge and financially successful," van Leeuwen says, because, as he puts it:

"It's not just another blogging site.
It's not just another photo site.
It's not just another music site.
It's not just another review site.
It's not just another email site.
It's not just another messenger site.
It's not just another news site.

It's not just another niche site.

It's the link that makes many of Yahoo's services come together and more valuable."

van Leeuwen continues, somewhat impenetrably: "Yahoo 360's value is deeply rooted in our nature to not only interact with other people but see ourselves do that. Yahoo 360 gives millions of Yahoo users an identity way beyond any of the single services. And it's an identity that is connectable."

Blogger Brad Hill has in the past worried that Google doesn't quite understand the mentality of the blogosphere while Yahoo! does:

"Recently I've been struck by how much cooler, meatier, and more entertaining is the Yahoo! Search blog than the Google Blog - Live. I've ripped both from time to time, for one reason or another, but on balance, the Yahoo! search team makes Google look clueless about the spirit and utility of blogging. Look at last week. Google's blog posted two entries: one announcing an update to Google Images (which wouldn't be necessary if that index were updated more frequently; see here for a recent semi-scandal in that department), and one announcing the release of Google Maps. I praised Google Maps to the skies, and I stand by that review, but the spare, uninformative announcement was a disappointment."

"Google should be taking lessons from Yahoo! in the blogging department," Hill concluded.

Julie Herendeen, VP of Network Products at Yahoo! has said that the 3 major components of Yahoo 360 will be:

1) Blogs for Yahoo! users.

2) The ability to add content from within the Yahoo! network to the personal space - Yahoo! Photos, Yahoo! Groups, and eventually also non-Yahoo! network content

3) The ability to see reviews from people within your "social network" - music, movie, and even local business reviews

Yahoo! 360 will be available only in beta only by invitation.

More Stories By Jeremy Geelan

Jeremy Geelan is Sr. Vice-President of SYS-CON Media & Events. He is Conference Chair of the all-new International Cloud Computing Expo series, of the International Virtualization Expo series, of AJAXWorld RIA Conference & Expo series, and of the long-running SOAWorld Conference & Expo series. He's founder of Cloud Computing Journal, Web 2.0 Journal, AJAX & RIA Journal and other leading SYS-CON titles. From 2000-6, as first editorial director and then group publisher of SYS-CON Media, he was responsible for the development of all new titles and i-Technology portals for the firm, and regularly represents SYS-CON at conferences and trade shows, speaking to technology audiences both in North America and overseas. He is executive producer and presenter of "Power Panels with Jeremy Geelan" on SYS-CON.TV.

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MSN Still No. 3 03/21/05 12:11:14 PM EST

What is MSN doing while everyone else buys and expands?

So What 03/21/05 06:43:00 AM EST

**Social software works bottom-up**

Isn't the aim here merely to drive Yahoo users to its own job service, HotJobs, and other portal services? How is that bottom-up?

Wiki fan 03/21/05 06:10:06 AM EST

Wikipedia has a 'social software' page now (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_software)

Outsider 03/21/05 06:07:33 AM EST

Anyone know how they decide who gets invites? (http://360.yahoo.com)

definition from Darwin 03/21/05 05:49:33 AM EST

Social software is the opposite of project-oriented collaboration tools that places people
into groups. Social software supports the desire of individuals to be pulled
into groups to achieve goals. Social software works bottom-up. People sign up in the system (for example, by downloading an IM client and registering an ID there) and then they affiliate through personal choice and actions (I add you to my buddy list, and you decide to remove me from yours).

welcome forevermore 03/21/05 04:21:20 AM EST

"Social software" is here to stay, finally an alternative to seeing software as just a business good.

ergt 03/21/05 02:08:06 AM EST

]]]is this why Yahoo! just bought Vancouver, British Columbia-based Flickr?[[[

Let's hope Flickr doesn't go the way of... well, everything else Yahoo seems to get ahold of.

no worry 03/21/05 02:03:51 AM EST

Google's stated motto is to organize the world's information. Yahoo is limping behind.

Doh! 03/21/05 02:01:44 AM EST

##quezztion commented on 21 March 2005:
So is this why Yahoo! just bought Vancouver, British Columbia-based Flickr? ##

Absolutely. This is the third high profile Blog/RSS related buyout of 2005. Live Journal was bought by Six Apart, while Ask Jeeves snapped up Bloglines

quezztion 03/21/05 01:44:28 AM EST

So is this why Yahoo! just bought Vancouver, British Columbia-based Flickr?