Just pass by and see the comment on MS tools and technology. I happened to work with both Java and .Net and I THINK MS tools SUCKS. Just look at how clumsy VS do refactoring. Compare that with Eclipse, VS looks like a baby.

As I mentioned in my 22-Aug-2005 post here, and after harping on this (for YEARS now) on why the Java language is not a
"one size fits all" language, I think the Sun folks finally got the (
MS ) message about supporting other languages on their JVM (like the
MS CLR has):

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Respectfully
Rob

I believe the prevalence of open source projects for the Java platform is the single largest advantage Java has over .NET. With free tools, multiple platforms, and libraries for everything under the sun available, The Java world has rolled itself into a really gigantic snowball. As a JRuby developer, I frequent Ruby community forums. While there, I see more people ask "how can I do in Ruby what I can do with library X in Java". It has certainly left its mark.

I believe the next great battle for platform supremacy will be for alternative languages. So far, Java has won and held onto the important metrics for adoption, but the recent push by Microsoft to bring dynamic languages into the fold threatens much of that domination. The world is finally seeing how languages like Ruby and Python can speed development time and reduce cost-of-implementation. Microsoft has the head start this time.

It is my hope that projects like JRuby, Groovy, Jython, and others will help again win the battle for Java developers (and Ruby, Groovy, and Python developers) around the world, helping to bring that all-important diversity to the greatest VM platform available.

[visit link] is recycles article originally published in October 2005.
While I can see the value of reposting older articles that may still be relevant, claiming that this is a new article is misleading.Why not state the original date of pyblication?

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I have worked with both environments Java/J2EE and Dot Net with C#. It is more fun programming with the MS tools and technologies and far more productive than my Java experience. I AM a Java developer and a Websphere with RAD (IBM plugins with Eclipse) developer. I do think the Java IDE tooling has been getting better but it is still rather lame when compared to Visual Studio 2005. I think that the big test for Dot Net and C# will be when Vista and Longhorn get released either people will start to adopt Dot Net at a much quicker pace or not. I do think that Mircosoft has been improving its technologies in a very significant way and has changed its corporate perspective where developers are concerned.

Sheeze louise! This still going? and why do JDJ News Desk keep reporting the same "Five years later" item, which probably should be reading "Six years later" as thats how long this old "news" has been here. It was a daft comment when first posted, posting again doesn't make it any better.

I beg to differ. I am not pro-Java nor pro-C#, I developer with the right tool/language for the job. Without a doubt, C# is easier, more consistent and just basically a nicer language than Java. It is not Java's fault per se. The language and API is getting old, depricated and bloated. Also, it seems SUN did not really know what they want. First a push on Applet and Swing, then forgetting about it and moving to the insanely complex EJB world and now finally again it looks as though they are trying the desktop (finally systray integration, after 10 years!).

The comment on the professional versions having optimized compilers very obviously shows that he has absolutely no idea of .Net. I hope he has a deeper knowledge of java ;)

Five years later what do we see? The .NET platform has been under constant development, often too fast for many corporate users to adopt. There has been a 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, each which could be counted as a significant version in their own right. Following the churn of the .NET SDK, the Visual Studio product has required its own aggressive update schedule, although when comparing feature lists, C# is not singled out for any special attention on Visual Studio's Web pages.

Having had the opportunity to spend some of my career time working in both the Java/J2EE and Microsoft .NET areas - I find the assumptions and conclusions in this article to be biased and incorrect. Both Sun and Microsoft have top-notch people working for them. Each "side" knows what they are doing. Based on my observations - I have seen several companies drop Java and move to .NET (the actual language used for .NET does not have to be C#). I also know of companies in the enterprise area that will only use Java (i.e. never .NET). I see this article as "preaching to the choir". To me it has the same impact as seeing an article in a Microsoft-biased magazine saying "Java is dead".

"The C#, C++, and C compilers are now free, although not obviously as optimized as the professional edition. "

What do you mean by this? And where's your evidence? As far as I know the only difference are the bundled tools to assist team & enterprise development.

This statement implies that solutions built using the Express products have somehow been knobbled performance wise. Extremely unlikely since all products use v2 of the .net framework.

Thy this: [visit link]

That is just the pace of the innovation and enfusiasm.

Would you suggest the .NET community slow down?

Too fast for who?

C#: Is the Party Over? Five years later what do we see? The .NET platform has been under constant development, often too fast for many corporate users to adopt. There has been a 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, each which could be counted as a significant version in their own right. Following the churn of the .NET SDK, the Visual Studio product has required its own aggressive update schedule, although when comparing feature lists, C# is not singled out for any special attention on Visual Studio's Web pages.