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Back in 1996, Java was originally hailed as a way of making the Web more appealing through applets, and, with its 'write one, run anywhere' philosophy, as the holy grail for desktop apps that would be truly cross platform. The truth is that both were oversold at the time. With the combination of low bandwidth Internet connections and early Swing releases not living up to user expectations occurring in the middle of the Microsoft vs. Sun 'pure Java' fight that resulted in JVMs being pulled from Internet Explorer, Java's attention moved off the desktop and onto the server.
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Hi David,
I wasn't making fun of Java Enterprise or Java mobil.. I was making fun of the percentage who couldn't answer what they do at work. I am a huge fan of all aspects of Java, my point was that there is a lot of Java desktop stuff still going on, and that Swing is really really good now. Mustang has a lot of very cool stuff in it, Swing labs is creating very solid frameworks, and I've been playing with some of the new JDNC stuff and it is incredibly solid. The Swing team have done an outstanding job, and a lot of people's perception of Swing is probably of Swing 1.1. People are trying to build richer user interfaces, whether it's with Flash or AJAX or whatever, and I just want people to reconsider building first class desktop apps with what is now a modern and very powerful Swing release.
Joe

You made fun of the java developers who did not do desktop apps, j2ee or mobile. While web apps may contain some "j2ee parts," I think many programmers do no consider these j2ee unless you are doing enterprise javabeans. Those who use pojo with servlets/jsps often do not think of themselves as j2ee -- except when we put it on our resumes!

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Back in 1996, Java was originally hailed as a way of making the Web more appealing through applets, and, with its 'write one, run anywhere' philosophy, as the holy grail for desktop apps that would be truly cross platform. The truth is that both were oversold at the time. With the combination of low bandwidth Internet connections and early Swing releases not living up to user expectations occurring in the middle of the Microsoft vs. Sun 'pure Java' fight that resulted in JVMs being pulled from Internet Explorer, Java's attention moved off the desktop and onto the server.

I have been following the Swinglabs developments for over 18 months now - this stuff rocks! I have already deployed applications using the JDNC 0.6 libraries and with the promise of JSR 295: Beans Binding the future for Java on the desktop looks very good indeed.


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